1231599968693 Posted October 9, 2005 Report Posted October 9, 2005 how much wind is needed to get going on a kitewing with a mountainboard Quote
tom1599968574 Posted October 9, 2005 Report Posted October 9, 2005 only tried riding one with a go-slo once, the little wheels have got some serious rolling resistance compared to a surfer!! basically tho, more wind is better. it has effectively 100% depower so there is pretty much no top end (you can stick it above you head, horizontal to the floor with the lift balanced by dropping the nose). when the wind starts getting to 3.3 blade teritory (whatever that is in mph!)i normally swap to the wing. i havent found a wind strong enough to put it away...yet! all you need to do is drop the tip in enough to get moving. drop it in as far as you dare (or the speed wobble on a four wheeler gets you!). how much you drop it in controls your speed so if you keep it flat in a nuclear gale, you will only go slow. drop it in all the way and you will be ripping! the acceleration is akin to diving a kite through the window but will keep going till your doing silly speeds. 40-50 is no problem on a surfer, guess it depends when your wobble kicks in on your board. i have got the smaller (4.8) wing but the same applies to the bigger one. not low wind toys but great when it blows a bit! Quote
kitesurfa Posted October 9, 2005 Report Posted October 9, 2005 There was a guy flying a 4.8 on a dirtsurfer, at my local site yesterday. wind was gusty upto 22ish mph and he wasn't doing too well (only did a few short runs), said it was way to gusty when I spoke to him. Most of the regular flyers were on 9 & 10m ARC's Quote
g0nz01599968659 Posted October 9, 2005 Report Posted October 9, 2005 Yeah its gonna depend on the surface u ride on. You need a minimum of 12mph to get the thing to fly itself (holding it up is no fun:rolleyes:) and 15mph will get you going on a hard flat surface. If you ride on grass with an atb then kite until its really blowing 20+. I'd buy a cheap Dirtsurfer if I were you, much faster with a wing:D Dan Quote
HORLEY_KITE_NUT Posted October 10, 2005 Report Posted October 10, 2005 i got 2 4.8 from a round 15 mph upwards with a 4 wheeler on short grass (about 20 mph on long) , and can get away with about 12 mph with a DS (but in a nice consistant wind ) or on a 4 wheel on tarmac (with a bit of flapping) , 3.5 from around 20 mph upwards (works great from 25 upwards). they are a complete handfull in gusty winds where the winds drop below the thresh hold ( like holding onto a bucking bronko LOL ). these things are are the bee's knee's in the right wind as well as rolling wind restance and wind speed , your weight also has some barring on the wind you will need to get going (i weigh from around 10 to 10 1/2 stone) can use them with buggies as well on a wind 5 mph added to the wind speed's above (as you can't quite the angle of attack which you can get with a boad so ya need a bit more wind to get going ) . and got to admit i have always wondered what they would be like on a kite bike ??? Quote
HORLEY_KITE_NUT Posted October 14, 2005 Report Posted October 14, 2005 you can also use the KW's on no, or low wind days as well i have heard that some peeps (i haven't done this my self mind you) use them going down hill and then jumping (get enough speed up and you will get lift) , i think if you do use them for this them make sure you got a good run off at the end of it Quote
makka Posted October 14, 2005 Report Posted October 14, 2005 I have never flown with a kite wing, however I do believe that kiting insurance doesn't cover their use if you injure someone. That said they look great fun! Maybe windsurfing insurance would cover it:confused: Quote
tom1599968574 Posted October 15, 2005 Report Posted October 15, 2005 no wind downhilling?! maybe, but you would need a shed load of speed to keep any decent air up. on a real steep hill maybe...! the record in on snow is over 600m, dont know what the drop over the distance was but i reckon it was a fair way with a breeze up the hill! I have never flown with a kite wing, however I do believe that kiting insurance doesn't cover their use if you injure someone. That said they look great fun! Maybe windsurfing insurance would cover it:confused: ha ha, the old kitewing insurance bad boy affair. seriously annoying and soooooo fed up of it but hey, health and safey is the basics of any extreme sport . big can o worms.... basically, the bbc said, no way jose. fair enough, kitewing uk got their own insurance. bbc said, 'hang on, [taking our business away, i dont think so] if you want to ride at any of our events, your gonna have to affiliate your insurance to ours, we will take your risk assement, your insurance will then be invalid unless the people that have already paid, join our club at full price'. what this means is if you join pksa insurance you are covered for kiting (unless you happen to go any where near the loop holes that cover pretty much everything involving wind, lines and material but that is several other threads...!). you are deffo not insured for riding a kitewing. get kitewing insurance and you are covered anywhere, anytime for riding a kitewing, unless bbc are having an event, and they say its null and void, because... [you havent paid them?!]. you are not insured for flying a kite. it seems at the moment, you need pksf insurance to kite at your normal site, pksf insurance to kite at events, kitewing insurance to ride anywhere with a kitwing, except bbc events where they say your insurance is invalid, and special permission from several local councils to ride on their beaches beacause they say your pksf and kitewing insurance is invalid! all good fun at the end of the day! i have bksa insurance (same as bbc/pka) and kitewing which, i think, lets me ride kite anywhere apart from 'special' places like weston and kitewing insurance that covers me to wing anywhere apart from bbc events. i think. there doenst seem to be a clear explanation anywhere. do i sound a little fed up?! hardly surprising?! I JUST WANNA FLY! Quote
makka Posted October 15, 2005 Report Posted October 15, 2005 Who is the kitewing insurance through? How does one go about getting the insurance? Quote
tom1599968574 Posted October 15, 2005 Report Posted October 15, 2005 hers a decent vid of people airing down a hill. its possible but if you look at the speed and drop...! http://www.windsports.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=7&pos=1 Who is the kitewing insurance through? How does one go about getting the insurance? it was on the old munkey web site www.kitewinguk.com. a new site has just gone up and i cant see it one there. Quote
Bob Monkhouse Posted October 15, 2005 Report Posted October 15, 2005 Got an as new 5.5 gathering dust hanging in the shop if anyone is interested in making a serious offer PM me. Too many toys and not enough chance to go out and play. Quote
HORLEY_KITE_NUT Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 only tried riding one with a go-slo once, the little wheels have got some serious rolling resistance compared to a surfer!! basically tho, more wind is better. it has effectively 100% depower so there is pretty much no top end (you can stick it above you head, horizontal to the floor with the lift balanced by dropping the nose). when the wind starts getting to 3.3 blade teritory (whatever that is in mph!)i normally swap to the wing. i havent found a wind strong enough to put it away...yet! all you need to do is drop the tip in enough to get moving. drop it in as far as you dare (or the speed wobble on a four wheeler gets you!). how much you drop it in controls your speed so if you keep it flat in a nuclear gale, you will only go slow. drop it in all the way and you will be ripping! the acceleration is akin to diving a kite through the window but will keep going till your doing silly speeds. 40-50 is no problem on a surfer, guess it depends when your wobble kicks in on your board. i have got the smaller (4.8) wing but the same applies to the bigger one. not low wind toys but great when it blows a bit! Tom what low end can you get away with when you are using the 5.5 (been thinking baout getting one now , was saving to get a house , but thats fallen through now , so thought wot the 'eck , lets treat my self) cheers Quote
Foilman Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 I had my first go today on my 5.5 in a decent wind with the 'Surfer. I recon that the absolute minimum is about 12kts - less than that & it wont support it's own weight. Once you get going, I found it seems to generate its own apparent wind nicely - the fatser you go, the more you can drop the corner in & get more speed:D Very nice feeling - Like it! Quote
tfahey Posted October 19, 2005 Report Posted October 19, 2005 i was wondering if anyone in the forum had taken a kitewing out with there ski's... all the videos i've seen, those guys are flying... just curious what speeds people think they've hit... especially when there landing... looks like a good time to make a mistake and roll down a mountain. thanks. Quote
Bob Monkhouse Posted November 3, 2005 Report Posted November 3, 2005 Got an as new 5.5 gathering dust hanging in the shop if anyone is interested in making a serious offer PM me. Too many toys and not enough chance to go out and play. Kitewing Skimbat 5.5 Still for sale. Never been flown. Display use only. I will let this go for the ridiculous price of £399 (RRP £599.99) Or as a crazy price package deal with a Dirtsurfer Beachracer (RRP £289.99) for only £599 PM me if interested. Quote
J-E Posted November 16, 2005 Report Posted November 16, 2005 Just heard rumours that Ronald from Belgium had done 84 km/h on MBS mountainboard and skimbat 4.8, pretty good! The speed had been measured actually over 84 km/h, but the guys took some speed of to secure fair measurement. Quote
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