MartinP Posted August 11, 2005 Report Posted August 11, 2005 I am after some tyre advice pleze At present i have a Libre Hardcore which i use either with Bigfoot Lights (Slicks) or Discs What i am after is the same grip on soft sand that the discs give me on Hard Sand BUT I dont think putting a few grooves in the bigfoots are really going to give me much more grip Any thouhgts ?? Thx M Quote
djstu_d Posted August 11, 2005 Report Posted August 11, 2005 hey martin, grooves in your tyres will help a little, but where are you lossing grip, front end, back end or both ???? Cos depending on whats happening, you might want to look at add some weights to your bug. Stu Quote
MartinP Posted August 11, 2005 Author Report Posted August 11, 2005 Stu Thx for the reply After using the discs on sand in france and was so impressed by the way the bug sat like rails down the beach and turned on a sixpence i wanted to try and recreate that on soft sand the problem at the moment on the bigfoots is the bugg is slipping around all over the place front end, back end & sideways No grip at all going into corners I dont really wont to go wiv bigfoot nobblies as ive seen Melly come out to oftern from using them when they dig in THEY DIG IN and Melly carries on Thx M Quote
MartinP Posted August 11, 2005 Author Report Posted August 11, 2005 ? Wot do u racers use when the sand is soft ??? Quote
Jabberwock Posted August 11, 2005 Report Posted August 11, 2005 Grooves will help a little - if it really is THAT Slippy - try losing some pressure from the tyres? I didnt have any problems on a VERY soft Westward ho! this weekend. I havent a clue what pressure they are tho - they still bounce - but I can indent the tyre with a little thumb pressure? HTH Quote
MartinP Posted August 11, 2005 Author Report Posted August 11, 2005 Thx HTH I'll give it ago any others ?? Grooves will help a little - if it really is THAT Slippy - try losing some pressure from the tyres? I didnt have any problems on a VERY soft Westward ho! this weekend. I havent a clue what pressure they are tho - they still bounce - but I can indent the tyre with a little thumb pressure? HTH Quote
stonemonkey Posted August 11, 2005 Report Posted August 11, 2005 the beach may be to hard for the fat boys try going back to barrows bigfoots are for really soft sand Quote
djstu_d Posted August 11, 2005 Report Posted August 11, 2005 Martin, nowts gonna be as good as disc's for holding a line & quick turns, bigfoots are a compromise as they keep you going on the soft stuff, but will never enable you to hold a line like dics will !!!! As monkey's said, if the sand ain't that soft, try putting barrows back on. If the sand does have very soft patches, so you need b/f's, try adding weight to your front end AND your rear axle. This'll help 'dig' the tyres in & help stop the buggy washing out.... hth Quote
-McManus- Posted August 11, 2005 Report Posted August 11, 2005 http://www.buggywielen.nl There you wil find a lot of diferend kind of wheels. Quote
Sand-Yeti Posted August 11, 2005 Report Posted August 11, 2005 Most for my playground is soft dry sand. I have wide offset rims on the rear (220mm) & 100 mm wide rim on the front. I use bigfoot tyres & keep them a bit soft to help with the flotation. I don't actually measure the tyre pressure anymore but feel them. The front tyre is narrower because it does sink a bit deeper in the sand so that the front doesn't pull away. Side slipping normally takes place on the rear wheels because they are floating higher on the sand. I have tried both grooved & ungrooved. In dry sand, it doesn't make the slightest difference except the grooved tyres wear out a lot quicker. I recently posted a pic of a worn out grooved tyre. Now on the damp beach & the mud flats when they are soggy, the grooved tyres do have an advantage. I think if I was on a damp European beach where the sand could be a bit soft but nevertheless wet, grooved tyres would be better. However, if the sand was really hard, then I would be looking at discs. Sand-Yeti Quote
MartinP Posted August 11, 2005 Author Report Posted August 11, 2005 Thx for all the comments Sand-Yeti Your name cropped up in conversation last nite I had a fly & a beer wiv Andy M :D thx M Most for my playground is soft dry sand. I have wide offset rims on the rear (220mm) & 100 mm wide rim on the front. I use bigfoot tyres & keep them a bit soft to help with the flotation. I don't actually measure the tyre pressure anymore but feel them. The front tyre is narrower because it does sink a bit deeper in the sand so that the front doesn't pull away. Side slipping normally takes place on the rear wheels because they are floating higher on the sand. I have tried both grooved & ungrooved. In dry sand, it doesn't make the slightest difference except the grooved tyres wear out a lot quicker. I recently posted a pic of a worn out grooved tyre. Now on the damp beach & the mud flats when they are soggy, the grooved tyres do have an advantage. I think if I was on a damp European beach where the sand could be a bit soft but nevertheless wet, grooved tyres would be better. However, if the sand was really hard, then I would be looking at discs. Sand-Yeti Quote
Sand-Yeti Posted August 11, 2005 Report Posted August 11, 2005 Thx for all the comments Sand-Yeti Your name cropped up in conversation last nite I had a fly & a beer wiv Andy M :D M Evil words no doubt. I will be in the UK 17 thru' 24 August. I plan to have a beer with Andy in Norfolk. Seems he likes his ale. Sand-Yeti Quote
MartinP Posted August 15, 2005 Author Report Posted August 15, 2005 Nah not at all he has mentioned his plan for that day Evil words no doubt. I will be in the UK 17 thru' 24 August. I plan to have a beer with Andy in Norfolk. Seems he likes his ale. Sand-Yeti Quote
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