Handles or Bars

[Will Holt]

i wanted to know what the general view is on handles or bars on foil kites. I fly my bII and i have always favoured my bar over handles for conveneince and also harnessing in. What do you prefer and why?

[Alex Brown]

i prefer my bar to handles, makes it alot easier for going along, harness, jumps,power etc

 

i can now get grabs on my blade III 4m on bar and board, its great, also spins and toeside+blind riding is far easier!

[icanfly]

Ive only just changed over to bars since i bought a 15m cabrinha C02 to start kitesurfing, i found the change a bit wierd cos id never used a harness etc but now id never go back! I use the bar with a bullet 4.5 now and the difference is amazing, i find i can ride in alot stronger winds now which is great for big air!

[Guest RichC]

I prefer handles for buggying as they allow better control but I prefer a bar for Landboarding for airs and harnessing

[rasga]

at the moment i use handles, and have seen some amazing moves pulled off on handles.

 

Though shall soon be hopefuly giving a bar a whirl

[schmik1599968584]

I prefer handles .... but i've never used a bar.

 

Do the guys using a bar fly in 2 line or 4 line mode ?

 

schmik

[Alex Brown]

2 line mode, no tangles yet, easy packing and un packing, great amount of power and overall easier use than handels.

 

alex

[Guest RichC]

4 line mode

[icanfly]

2 line with the back lines attatched to a saftey leashe attatched to my harness.

[HighAsAKITE]

4 line all the way!!!!

 

Highasx

[spooky]

Originally posted by Alex Brown

2 line mode, no tangles yet, easy packing and un packing, great amount of power and overall easier use than handels.

 

alex

So what sort of safety have you got fitted?[

 

QUOTE]2 line with the back lines attatched to a saftey leashe attatched to my harness

 

How can you have back lines if on a 2 line set up?

Just asking as some home made 2 line safety systems do not work that great as if attached to one leader as in a 2 line LEI, you will still have half teh kit powered up due to teh brideling?

Just a thoght Jon

[tom82]

Could someone please tell me if you can do a 3/4-line setup with a flexi bullet? I bought my Bullet 4.5 on handles a while back, but have contemplated switching to a bar for boarding purposes ever since. (Also am planning to get a harness, which I'll use on the stronger days and with my next, bigger kite.)

 

Does it matter what make/type of bar I buy? I mean, do I have to get a flexifoil bar to go with the bullet? And if I did, would it work with a kite like the Little Devil (which I'm thinking about as my next purpose)??

 

Thanks for help, guys!

Tom.

[icanfly]

When i said i use 2 line i meant that i dont use a cross over kit, i just fly on the front lines with the back lines really loose and attatched to my harness via a saftey leash so if i drop the bar / need to let go for what ever reason then i dont lose the kite and it depowers straight away. This works on the bullet no problem.

[rasga]

yeah someone has noticed that goshen watts uses handles, also a rider some of you mauy have seen out and about >>Mark Lycett

 

Info here

[tom82]

Originally posted by icanfly

When i said i use 2 line i meant that i dont use a cross over kit, i just fly on the front lines with the back lines really loose and attatched to my harness via a saftey leash so if i drop the bar / need to let go for what ever reason then i dont lose the kite and it depowers straight away. This works on the bullet no problem.

 

icanfly: I guess what I'm wondering is, can you get cross-over kits for Bullets then? And if I'm thinking of buying a second, more powerful kite in the future, would I be able to use the bar I buy for a bullet with it??

 

Cheers

Tom.

[the_lone_wolf]

you won't need a x-over kit on a bullet, they only have a useful effect on the slower blade 2's and perhaps the 10.5m blade 3 - my 8.5 is very quick to turn in a good breeze:)

[windy]

that mark lycett guy looks real cool, considering hes using "old school" handles. tee hee. ;)

[Alex Brown]

How can you have back lines if on a 2 line set up?

Just asking as some home made 2 line safety systems do not work that great as if attached to one leader as in a 2 line LEI, you will still have half teh kit powered up due to teh brideling?

Just a thoght Jon [/b]

 

what????????? i have the two main lines, and a kite killer atached to a line which links the two main lines, when i let go of the bar one of the main lines effectively breaks in half and there is no power what so ever, its v good. its a wipika kite surf bar.

 

i have one for sale for £40-50 ono, pm me

 

alex brown

[schultzie1599968577]

yes it is correct that goshen does use handles, and we all know how good he is, i prefere handles to race with because u have more controll with the kite and when jumping you can send the kite back quicker and bring it back with more precision, i use arcs and naturally i have to use a bar but they are so fast as it is there isnt any need for any thing else,

 

For the guy asking about a bar for the bullet you can purchace a bar for them all it does it attach your front lines to the out side for the bar and the rear lines to the middle via a short leader you want them so that they are just slack, i dont use my bar untill the kite is really starting to power up this is because it really needs the breaks to work, i might also suggest using a pully for the rear lines, have been meaning to try that with my bullet.

 

Schultzie