spooky Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Fly all my Blades on 2 lines, no crossover. To arrange an effective jettision attach 30mm x 4mm stainless steel rings to each of your 2 leaders - local chandlers - Probolt. Keep your leaders as short as possible 20mm is good. Connect 1 line directly to a ring. Pass the other line through the adjacent ring and larksfoot to a third identical ring; attach a wrist loop leash to this ring. Are you sure? My understanding of flying Blades (be it the Mk2's) was that doing the above you kept half the kite powered up (all be it not fully) due to the way it is bridled and the kite would then spin! So now you had a spinning kite AND with no control!!! May be wrong but as far as I am aware there is no effective leash system for a 2 line set up on a Blade? Just thougt I would mention it as the last place you (or those that copy) wish to find out a leash system does not work is when you need it? Keep your leaders as short as possible 20mm is good Take it that is ment to be 20cm? My advice to all fliers have your leaders as long as posssible (especially whne flying on a bar). Leaders are ther to protect your hands, especially when turning. Not so bad with handles but if turning a bar a full 90' (as you need to with the mis-informed trend for short bars) then the lines can injure you. Also if the kite luffs at teh edge of teh window and you try to pump air in or it crashes and you try to turn it, then desent length leaders are a god send Have fun, Jon Quote
Sail Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Spooky When you ditch the bar the kites do stay a little inflated and flap around especially the Bullets but there's no pull and no power. I've ditched the 8.5 under power flying straight across the window with a windspeed of 25 kmph and fell on my arse; the 4.9 falls out of the sky at 35kmph. I've spent the summer flying this way and using it as my preferred method of landing. Yes sometimes your bridles tangle a bit but hey the joy of flying clean on 2 lines makes it worth it. I've flown the 1.5 & 2.5 Bullets and the 4.9 and 8.5 Blades on the same 2 line bar with no problems. My Guerilla G13 is pretty much a big foil ( albeit without a bridle) and this is essentially the same ditch system - just differently configured - this stays fully inflated and I've succesfully ditched this at 40kmph with my feet a metre off the ground and again this is my preferred method of landing it. I did mean 20mm but hey, I guess it depends on your bar, adjust to suit. Try at your own risk but if anyone does come up with a safety issue please let me know cause I just hate getting hurt. Agree about short bars. Regards Quote
spooky Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Just to confirm you are flying on two lines with no brake lines? As in Main and brake pigtails connected to the same main line on each side? Safety is attached to a ring that allows the bar to slid up one of the main lines? Leaders are 20mm ie 2cm? Many tahnks and enjoy the wind Jon Quote
Sail Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Spooky Yep, front and brake bridles connected together at the kite. The safety leash ring jams against the identical ring held by the leader and lets the bar slide up the line on release. I keep the leaders short cause I'm terrified of tangling the safety leash around the bar or twisting around the lines on the kite side of the bar - but in retrospect I think you're right about keeping the leaders long enough to clear the bar and making the safety leash longer - my hands have been a little battered on occasion. Before letting the bar go you do need to make sure the leash isn't tangled but thats true of a lot of the jettison systems out there. Ideally I want the leash to terminate on my harness via a Gibbs QR to leave both hands free. In fact I'm hooking it up right now. I've given up using my shiny kitesurf harness with the "turkey hook" chuckle, and gone back to a lightweight Blackdiamond climbing harness. I've put the Gibbs swivel/QR on the harness loop and connected both the leash and the tape to the bar into the other side. At the bar I've a further Gibbs QR swivel. That should do. Hands free and spin all I want. Don't send me grapes. Regards Quote
Gibbo Posted October 23, 2003 Report Posted October 23, 2003 Sail U got any pics of the set up ? Quote
mgs Posted October 23, 2003 Report Posted October 23, 2003 As far as I can tell by whats been said,its similar to flying a 2 line LEI with a leash line attched to your wrist,when you let go of the bar its slides up one of the power lines and stops when it gets to a certain point,by this time the kite has depowered and falls to the ground or water.I have the boost video and the wipika video so I will have a look and see how it is configured.I have never seen this setup on a foil.. Quote
Sail Posted October 23, 2003 Report Posted October 23, 2003 Yo Gibbo Send me your email and I'll blast off a jpeb. It looks simple but theirs loadsa detail you need to get right. But if anyone says you can't single end a 2 line foil safetly stick your finger up their bum. Regards Quote
Whsper99 Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 I had mainly only used foils over land... that is.. untill the blade 3 came out..... All I can say is wow.... I pulled my highest jumps ever on a blade... flying an 8.5 in 13mph gusting to 23 in the surf one of the best times on the water I have ever had... but... don't crash em.... they only float for so long Quote
carlos_climber Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 Out at whitstable on saturday...chris calthorpe was out on his 10.5 and the height he was getting in 14 - 16 mph was astonishing... Ay one point there were two of us on flysurfers and four blades out on the water..and only one lei.....don't often see that andy Quote
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