RedHotChili1599968600 Posted August 27, 2003 Report Posted August 27, 2003 I agree the Blade does need to be powered up, but as its a high performance kite, it's only natural. I fly with a bar, but you realy have to turn it as if you are using handles, if you see what I mean, it needs a lot of input, plus i need a longer bar! Quote
Greenman Posted August 28, 2003 Report Posted August 28, 2003 ok my B3 6.6 was lovely on mon when i was at westward ho! no over flying no falling out the sky . But to day when i whent out it just looked at me and fell out the sky and kicked me in the ass big time . the only thing i can put it down to is that it dose not like gusty winds when it gusted up it whould over fly me and then when the wind whould die it just fell out off the sky i love this kite but it realy ****** me off today is this what every one else is finding or is this justme:confused: Grrenman Quote
burgy Posted August 28, 2003 Report Posted August 28, 2003 Originally posted by goshen Time will tell. What do people think so far? I've said it before but I rekon the RaptorII's a more stable kite that the BIII, you can take so many libertys its untrue. stability aside the smaller BIII's dont know what they are, I mean there too pokey to make a good intermediate buggy kite, its not fast enough to be a race kite & who really ATBs with a 3m? OK so perhaps there OK to learn with but if your still in the waving it around part of the learning curve your prolly better off witha bullet devil or buster. the big ones are good, but then thats not much of a suprise, look at who developed them & how they ride, were talkin powered to the max & very rarely using anything smaller than a 6, ive seen them in 15-18 with 8.5s so how much wind would you need for a 4? I think its a nice kite(some sizes are great) backed up by the biggest marketing machine in the buisness & hyped by people who have never tryed anything else. burgy no mates Quote
Andy S Posted August 28, 2003 Report Posted August 28, 2003 [stir mode on] How come when only the B II was available everyone said that they were the best kites 'cos they were so stable - far better than any others. Now the B III appears to have similar characteristics to "other" kites in Dept. Luff, everyone is now saying that they only do this 'cos they are such high performance kites and that this is only to be expected etc.... This argument wouldn't have held water a few months ago the other way around. (with a bit of and ) [stir mode off] Andy Quote
Agger Posted August 28, 2003 Report Posted August 28, 2003 Originally posted by burgy burgy no mates I love you burgy LOL Time to get worried is now LMAO ;) ;) Quote
burgy Posted August 28, 2003 Report Posted August 28, 2003 Bring it on big man I got love enough for everyone just dont tell the misses In response to Mr S Well what ya gonna do, its the flexi board after all a case of "my kites best" syndrome perhaps. I'm sure we all do it to a certain extent, after all parting with £££'s isnt conductive to a totaly objective point of view. There was a time when all this was being said about the Pred1's. Quote
bushflyer Posted August 28, 2003 Report Posted August 28, 2003 getting a blade flyer to try something with depower is as hard as getting said blood out of said stone. bars are only just coming into favour, never mind depower (awaits the flames). when the long awaited flexi depower kite arrives, im sure it'll be the best thing since sliced bread;) Quote
Andy S Posted August 28, 2003 Report Posted August 28, 2003 Originally posted by burgy In response to Mr S Well what ya gonna do, its the flexi board after all a case of "my kites best" syndrome perhaps. I'm sure we all do it to a certain extent, after all parting with £££'s isnt conductive to a totaly objective point of view. There was a time when all this was being said about the Pred1's. Yeah I know - just trying to make a point BUT I know that my Frenzies are the bestest kites in the world... and woe betide those who say any different ;) Andy Quote
Adrena1in Posted August 29, 2003 Report Posted August 29, 2003 Originally posted by The Flyin Scotsman I'll agree with NEWBOYs last post, I prefer the larger blade3's (8.5m), the middle sized blade2s (4m/4.9m), and my favourite the 3.3 Blade1 Interesting. I've been speaking to Katherine and she got a 3 metre Blade 3 and she doesn't like it at all either. Says it's far less stable than her Little Devil. At the moment, the only improvement I'm seeing in the Blade 3s is the speed through the air and the speed of turning, which are only going to be applicable to the big kites. I certainly prefer my 8.5 B3 to my (now sold) 9.0 B2, but the B2 was easier to get going. Quote
Greenman Posted August 29, 2003 Report Posted August 29, 2003 Hi all got my B3 4.9 to go with the 6.6 and i can say it flys just the same with the same probs well slightly better if any thing. giving it a proper go at the weekend to see how thow compair. Quote
K-84 Posted August 31, 2003 Report Posted August 31, 2003 fellow kite flyers, i've had 5 blades in the past 3 yrs 2M,4M,4.9M,7.2MMK1toMK3 i use all of them on cross over kits ,and i really love the way all the way the kites fly. And are very stable ! when i brought my 4.9 b3 iwent straight up devils dyke , THAT !@£$ bar iwas sold just could not get on with it. i have always flown on 2 lines and cok . my 4.9 does not luff or fall back. hope it makes sense G 2 STORMS 1RRD PRANKSTER 150(F!£@&^% awsome) B 4M MK2 B 4.9MK3 B 7.2 MK1 kheo flyer ±bits&pieces Quote
Adrena1in Posted September 1, 2003 Report Posted September 1, 2003 Originally posted by K-84 i have always flown on 2 lines and cok . Ouch!! Quote
Lem Posted September 1, 2003 Report Posted September 1, 2003 Sounds like the've copied the Firebee design for the new Blade... Loads of grunt in great winds, loads of pain in gusty winds! Quote
Lem Posted September 1, 2003 Report Posted September 1, 2003 that was intended to be a joke srod - It just sounds like the new Blade has acquired some of the infamous luffing traits of the firebee! Quote
Lem Posted September 1, 2003 Report Posted September 1, 2003 oh dear - a fenland sense of humour bypass.. ..although having flown firebees inland a few times - you Blade guys have got it easy - you don't know what luffing is!.. Thankfully I live next to the sea, so can get away with flying fidgety kites! - although if anyone wants to swap their B3 for a lovely firebee..no takers?... shame Quote
bushflyer Posted September 1, 2003 Report Posted September 1, 2003 also flew a 7.3 frenzy for a while (thanks uncle dave!)... it was very nice but needed quite a bit more wind. people who compare these kites to 6m-ish blades need their head looking at [/b] if you want a fair comparison of blade vs frenzy power, fly it in two line mode. remember you're only using all the frenzy's grunt when you sheet in fully whereas with the blade its on 100% all of the time. personally id say its got slightly less uplift than a 6.4 but better glide and float. Quote
Bob Monkhouse Posted September 1, 2003 Report Posted September 1, 2003 Had a quick go of a 4.9 B3. Thought it was pants compared to my 4.9 B2. Yes faster but luffy and when power kicked it in it was evil. Totally blown away by how well behaved 10.5 was, which was totally boardable in 15mph (by Hooly is at least 3 stone lighter than me and soft as ****e ) when I was aching like Billy Ho buggying with my 4.9 B2 (still without harness recovering from broken leg). Jumping with 10.5, the lines could go totally slack and the sweetie would still keep it shape and not luff at all. Can't wait till I get my boarding pass. :) :) Rock the casbar. Quote
bushflyer Posted September 2, 2003 Report Posted September 2, 2003 wont agrue that the blades get going in lighter wind. that fabric helps, but when a blade gets wet it takes about 40 mind to get dry, whereas a frenzy dries in 20. still rather have a lighter kite though. wait till you see my new monster toy! Quote
burgy Posted September 2, 2003 Report Posted September 2, 2003 Hooly 6 months ago I would totaly aggree with you, theres no way a 7.3Frenzy has the power of a 6m BIII, the same story with the 8.5BIII & 9.5Frenzy. however now I can fly them well I'm convinced that theres very little difference between the 8.5BIII & the 9.5Frenzy. My time flying with the nutters up north confirmed this for me. power delivery is very different but you can get the same sort of hight & speed. Comming to the Ho? hopefully I'll get some beach time & we can find out for sure burgy Quote
Tone Posted September 2, 2003 Report Posted September 2, 2003 with the frenzys it seems that if you ARE powered up then you will be going big!!! lots of float etc.. when the conditions are less than perfect, the simplicity of the blade wins hands down... i LOVE my 6.4, i would LOVE a 10.5 and a 6.6... but due to recent spending... it is never going to happen. Tony Quote
savage Posted September 14, 2003 Report Posted September 14, 2003 I've been away for a while (nowhere nice ) so only just read this. Have any of you actually flown the Blade IIIs for more than 10 minutes? Compared to B2s: - way better in light winds - way better in strong winds - way more lift - better upwind - way faster - SLIGHTLY less stable (but if you're even half able to fly a kite you're ok. Goshen: we've got a place we ride that's got big grass banks and stuff like that to jump off. Basic technique for jumping off them is pretty similar to flat land jumping, just the timing is a little different. Quote
goshen1599968577 Posted September 15, 2003 Author Report Posted September 15, 2003 have you tried a 720 with a grab, landing with one hand? Quote
savage Posted September 15, 2003 Report Posted September 15, 2003 Haven't tried 720 grabs with the B3's, been obsessed with more modern tricks lately. Even the big Blade 3s (well up to the 8.5 anyway) are so fast you can re-direct at the last minute and get away with it. Landing one handed adds no difficulty to a trick mate, with any kite, unless you're unhooked. I have no idea how gusty the wind is in Oz, but in Scotland at times it can be horrendous (nice too sometimes). It takes more concentration to fly in these conditions and getting moving (on a board or something can help too), but I don't have any problems with the B3s. Much more input is needed too, you can't just let the kite sit above your head and expect it to stay up there. Take it easy, Quote
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