andrewjohn Posted February 4, 2015 Report Posted February 4, 2015 Can't say I see the point really? It's an out an out race kite designed to be locked in one position to just truck you along. How many of us want to do that every session? I'd rather have something I can chuck about and have some fun with, so that means it needs to be nice and stable and quick. I'm more interested if anyone's using a 12m peak2 yet? Quote
plummet Posted February 4, 2015 Author Report Posted February 4, 2015 Have you tried a chrono? the lift is amaising. The aoa at the bar means stupid soft landings everytime. Its definately a sweet kite for landboarding. Quote
plummet Posted February 4, 2015 Author Report Posted February 4, 2015 PS i've been demoing teh 12m this week, Its more chuckable than my 13 edge. its pretty similar in turning speed to my 10 edge. Quote
andrewjohn Posted February 4, 2015 Report Posted February 4, 2015 Yeah, I keep forgetting they do smaller sizes, I guess they might be more fun. My problem with many top end kites these days is the price. Especially the cost of bars and lines, £400 in some cases is just rediculous. I guess if you're a serious racer then you need something like the chrono/elf's or Flysurfers new race kite, but for your average kiter the price is driving them out of the market. Just take a look on flea bay at the mo. Virtually no decent second hand foils at all. I guess because no one is buying new ones. Quote
plummet Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Posted February 5, 2015 Fair play. Chrono is expensive. But still cheaper than speed 4. Quote
idscasper Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 There was a video of trampa team riding with the chronos in grass. Quote
idscasper Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 I dont find the link but they flied pretty well. Lots of lift and hangtime, but you allready know that. Quote
AJ9604 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Posted February 6, 2015 I have the 18m as my super light wind kite, gets going in nothing and can still kite when others are sat around waiting. The video you are after was this one chronotime on Vimeo AJ Quote
plummet Posted February 6, 2015 Author Report Posted February 6, 2015 Nice. Whats the top end of your 18m on the landboard AJ? Quote
AJ9604 Posted February 7, 2015 Report Posted February 7, 2015 To be honest I don't know as it depends on where I fly and the conditions, I normally get on my 12m c4 as soon as the wind is right for that and I can fly that. Aj Quote
slide Posted February 7, 2015 Report Posted February 7, 2015 it would be interesting to know how many lei's are used for landboarding, as I still prefere foils myself and don't find the need to keep updating - my quiver is 6 metre pulse 2 - 8metre pyscho iv - 10 metre speed 2 deluxe -my favourite and very fast , black and gold -beautiful , and I have a 12metre speed 3 , and a speed 2 15metre silver arrow , that needs some tlc around the stitches but I think ripstop tape will suffice and a job for warmer time........ taking the 8metre and 10metre today at bran and my LB77 now that it fits me -first proper ride today and today I will see how fast it will take me into jumps , hopefully a good day - first time kiting since November - never had such a big gap Quote
andrewjohn Posted February 7, 2015 Report Posted February 7, 2015 I had a gap of a whole year last year for one reason and another. Back in big time now though and going for what will be my 6th session of the year today. I know what you mean about LEI's Pete. I've been flying the Hq Matrixx for 3 yrs now, and am only looking at Lei's cos I'm determined to get going on the water this year, but I still much prefer foils on land as they are so much quicker and easier to set up.I still need a big one for light days, but the second hand market is dead. Maybe I was wrong about the chronos though, that video is top notch, but Ozone only seem to be marketing it as an out an out race kite. Quote
col Posted February 7, 2015 Report Posted February 7, 2015 wait for the chrono 2, more user friendly by all accounts, more drift back capabilities, Quote
plummet Posted February 7, 2015 Author Report Posted February 7, 2015 Slide, I basically roll with one foil. My light wind foil over that I'm into lei. But I am also in the water aswell. Lei's do both foils don't. Well closed sell foils do, but they don't offer a self rescue option while on the water. So they have limitations. Any way. Lei's are easier to solo launch and land in nuking winds. Particularly if you use a teather. They can cope with a lot more turbulent wind than a foil and have larger wind ranges. Plus size for size they are faster. So... small lei's are great for storm kiting in high winds. Foils rule the light wind and typically way better glide and softer landings with less effort than leis. I feel way more comfortable boosting on land with an foil than I do on a lei. Quote
AJ9604 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Posted February 8, 2015 Lei's for me on the land my chrono is just for when the wind is to light so I still have a session. Aj Quote
plummet Posted February 8, 2015 Author Report Posted February 8, 2015 Well I've had a sweet cross section of wind to test the 12m this week. Had it out 10-18 knots on the land. 13-24 on the water 7-10 on the buggy I love it. The lift is sensational. light wind jumping is similar to my 15 speed at 10 knot end. But at the 18 knot end its just stupid. What I love the most is the aoa at the bar while jumping. You can so precisely pilot it for a stupid soft landing from way up. But it does take skill to fly. it does also stall and pivot turn. something you don't want to do mid air. So novices need not apply. Great fun. The 13-24 knot session on the water was a bit manic. 24 knots was really to much. The jumps were paraglider material. I was in the air for soooo long.... PS i'me used to being in the air flying the ozone edges.. This was just a different level of stupid. Quote
slide Posted February 8, 2015 Report Posted February 8, 2015 good day yesterday and my quads are killing me as I walk about , but I love nothing more when its honking to get the pulse2 6metre and that kite is excellent to jump with , but you need a strong wind , but the pulse 2 6metre is so quick , that before you redirect it I dip it in a tiny bit deeper 2 0'clock and lower depending on how much time I have , and it behaves very well and really adds boost to this kite , this is really only possible with the pulse2 6metre , and not bigger kites - and I would never just own big foils - I tried the speed2 6metre ,and that is dangerous and constsantly overtakes its self -tried a speed1 5metre and that was doable in mental winds , but when I tried the pulse2 6metre , I knew straight away -yes this is my high wind kite -it behaves very well and is a lot of fun , although I wouldn't want a big pulse Quote
plummet Posted February 8, 2015 Author Report Posted February 8, 2015 I do a similar thing with my quiver Slide. I start off with real high aspect kites. long and thin for ultimate upwind performance and then get lower in aspect ratio until I'm at my smallest kite which is a wave kite...... that's pretty damn low aspect. Quote
EILG Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 can anyone compare the chrono to the ozone summit. curios to see hw they compare Quote
plummet Posted February 10, 2015 Author Report Posted February 10, 2015 Yep. Summit is slower, worse upwind, less lift, way less glide. easier to launch and land. less likely to tip tuck. easier to fly, not as scary but also not exciting. Which is mad considering it was there flagship high performance a couple of years ago. If your experienced then chrono all the way. If not then summit. Quote
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