ok andy mabe i sound a bit harsh i do tend to get carryed away with my self i have no animosity towards you my problem is that the other month they were all moaning about the kite club ,wot came of that nothing ,all it does is piss dave mac off ,then wat happens people start getting bans for minor things like poor luke ,there is no way your going to budge his decition ,this pugh guy aint gona change anything either i think it could have the opposite effect and they could start cutting numbers ,in costa brava were i went on holiday they hand out 50 rash vests wen there all gone that is it no one else is aloud out ,im just consernd that it could go that way ,i hope not ,IM SORRY for saying your not locals like i say i do get over exited ,i dont want to fall out with anyone ,SO PETE SUK MY DICK