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andy666

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Had my first go on the speed 5 9 meter today. The wind was light (for the kite size) at 6-7 ms (12-14 knots) so I chose the landboard today :crazypilot:

What a nice feeling, it's super fast compared to my Speed 4 Lotus 15 meter (no shit Sherlock), it's also faster than my Peter Lynn Changer 2 12 meter (which is power-wise like a 9) so it took a bit of getting used to.

But man I like it, it builds power with apparent wind like there's no tomorrow (obviously topped by pure race kites) and I was even able do to a 3,4 meter jump with it (weighing 80-ish kg).

I cannot wait to try it out in the water in its sweet spot I recon this will be the kite I top my highest jump (10,3 meter) without breaking any sweat!

I also found it's a lot easier to reverse launch than my Speed 4 which is really nice as well.

Now if I must say something negative I've never liked stiffners in the leading edge, I'm always afraid they will break or poke  a hole in the canopy, but I'm sure they are there for a good reason :-) 

Bring on Danish summer - oh and release the 15 meter please!:beach:

//M

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Don't be too concerned about the stiffeners. I had them in my 8m speed 4 and they never caused a problem. They are flexible plastic, so should never break. The only problem may be if you land nose down and run across something hard, the stiffener may be the wear point or catch on a sharp edge. But it's very unlikely.....

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1 hour ago, andy666 said:

Don't be too concerned about the stiffeners. I had them in my 8m speed 4 and they never caused a problem. They are flexible plastic, so should never break. The only problem may be if you land nose down and run across something hard, the stiffener may be the wear point or catch on a sharp edge. But it's very unlikely.....

Ok thanks, that's good to know :-) 

//M

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18 hours ago, Fernando said:

Local kite personality and repairer Ian Bourne here in Townsville also acquired the same FS5 9m kite. He was riding in 10knots, upwind and being able to jibe with a decent 10foot jump. I was flabbergasted. Flysurfer are incredible at making kites.

That's amazing! I assume he was on a foil board or race board, not a TT? :crazypilot:

//M

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I had the pleasure of flying the Flysurfer Speed5 12M thanks to Specialist Kiteboarding ( http://specialistkiteboarding.com/ ) over the weekend and it was simply awsome.  I had flown the Speed3 12M Deluxe for 5 years as my main kite, it's not often you say this about a new kite without having a marketing company elbow deep up your ass but it's literally better than the Speed3 in every way.

The feeling of the kite is incredibly familiar, but it's far more refined.  It's smoother, upwind better, downwind incredibly better, turns significantly faster on a smaller bar, less bar pressure, it's just overall a much better kite by a significant margin in all areas.  The one thing I really noticed was the reduction in side pull, the Speed3 12M at 50km/h would really start to pull side ways hard as where in 12'ish knots I was pushing 71km/h on the Speed5 12M.

Overall a great experience, i'll post up a full review at a later date.

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Cronix - 2013

http://flysurfer.com/project/cronix/

The Cronix was launched in 2013 as Flysurfers first LEI, designed to be a crossover kite for Freestyle, Wave. it is 3 strut LEI.

It introduced the following new few features (their wording)

Adaptive Airfoil
"Profile adjustment – like sailing or on airplane wings – this is the idea behind the Adaptive Airfoil System. For the first time in kite history, a minimalistic trailing edge bridle makes it possible, to adjust the profile of the kite during flight. Especially noticeable on the excellent low end or when relaunching"
 
Self Launcher
"With the Self Launcher, we are offering you a tool to easily solo-launch the CRONIX. Position the kite at the edge of the wind window, connect the sandbag (which comes with the kite) and place this on the ground. Once the kite lines are tensioned the Self Launcher automatically releases safely at just the right moment."
 
Boost 2 - 2016
 
 
The Boost is a 5 strut LEI, first introduced in 2015 as Boost 1 which was positioned as: " a highly efficient L.E.I Race Kite, combining explosive lift and huge hang time"
 
The Boost 2 (2016) is a refinement of the Boost 1, but it positioned differently: "The BOOST2’s redefined canopy delivers spot on high performance for any riding style. This powerhouse is best for hooked in boosting and stands for the ultimate freeriding feeling. Whether you are ripping waves or go for full-on freestyle, the BOOST2 is a true crossover kite for magical moments on the water." No mention of racing here, perhaps reflecting the move away from LEI's in the race scene.

The Adaptive Airfoil is retained  in the larger sizes (15-18) and is also designed to be removable, and the Self Launcher is also retained albeit a V2.0

Ive pulled together the following table based on the published technical specs - this is a condensed version.

Cronix

Colour

Proj. Area m2

Aspect Ratio

Weight Kite only

6

Purple

4.3

5

2.64

8

Yellow

5.8

5

3.14

10

Cyan

7.2

5

3.72

12

Green

8.6

5

4.02

 

 

 

 

 

Boost 2

Colour

Proj. Area m2

Aspect Ratio

Weight Kite only

5

lime/cyan

3.55

5.5

2.3

7

magenta/cyan

5.1

5.5

2.76

9

orange/cyan

6.6

5.5

3.14

11

lime/cyan

8

5.5

3.6

13

magenta/cyan

9.5

5.5

4.04

15 LW

orange/cyan

11

6

4.10

18LW

lime/cyan

13.1

6

4.56

The images below are also an easy way to compare the differences. My knowledge of kite history pales to some posters here so I won't embarrass myself, but to my eyes the Cronix looks to have some C Kite characteristics with squared off wingtips. The Boost is more of a conventional Bow kite design with the highly swept back wingtips.

 

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I've just offloaded my Speed 4 15 meter to make some cash for the new speed 5 15 meter :-) 

I'm really looking forward for it to arrive, hopefully within the next 2-3 days. Luckily the Danish summer right now is windy enough for my 9 meter :-) 

Will let you know when it arrives :-) 

//M

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Hey Thanks for that comparison James @specialist_kiteboarding. They are vastly different kites, especially when you mentioned the C-characteristics of the Cronix vs the Boost. I love the North Vegas for example, as a great boosting kite, but it has too much power on the down stroke so I tend to lose a lot of upwind potential. The Boost I imagine is the opposite. Any chance to demo these kites alllllllllllllll the wayyyyy here in sunny QLD? :angel:

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